On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 09:00:07PM +0100, Christian Heimes
<christ...@python.org> wrote:
> On 2018-01-13 20:08, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 06:06:16PM +0100, Christian Heimes
> > <christ...@python.org> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> PEP 370 [1] was my first PEP that got accepted. I created it exactly one
> >> decade and two days ago for Python 2.6 and 3.0. Back then we didn't have
> >> virtual environment support in Python. Ian Bicking had just started to
> >> create the virtualenv project a couple of months earlier.
> >>
> >> Fast forward 10 years...
> >>
> >> Nowadays Python has venv in the standard library. The user-specific
> >> site-packages directory is no longer that useful.
> >
> > Can I disagree?
> >
> >> I would even say it's
> >> causing more trouble than it's worth. For example it's common for system
> >> script to use "#!/usr/bin/python3" shebang without -s or -I option.
> >
> > System scripts are run under user root which seldom has user-specific
> > site-packages so why worry?
>
> You'd be surprised how many tools and programs are using Python these
> days.
Certainly not. I wrote or helped to write a lot of them myself. :-)
> You can easily break important user programs by installing a
> package with --user.
Under root? Probably. Then don't do that -- or do not allow system
Python to import user-specific site-packages (i.e., distinguish system
Python from normal Python running under user root).
But for a non-root user user-specific site-packages is quite a
convenient thing. Please don't remove it.
> Christian
Oleg.
--
Oleg Broytman http://phdru.name/ p...@phdru.name
Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.
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