On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:28:33AM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Are Matthew's replies stuck in the python-devel moderation queue? > (Just realised the likely reason I'm only seeing half this > conversation...) > > Hmm, also just realised I've been hitting Reply-List, so my replies > are only going to python-devel... > Yeah, the bulk of the conversation has been hitting the devel lists.fedoraproject.org list. Only a few messages have gone only to python-devel lists.fp.o (and quite a few messages are going only to devel lists.fp.o)
> > If your needs are very minimal, python3-tempita might be a good > > choice. If you actually do need more features than that, > > python-mako and python-jinja2 are popular. Note that both of those > > have a few deps (but hopefully not as bad as cheetah). (Also -- > > the python3 version of mako has less deps than the python2 > > version... I think that it just because those deps haven't been > > ported to python3 yet and the package can operate with reduced > > functionality without them. the deps fo the python3 version might > > expand i nthe future). > > Jinja2 is excellent, with very high quality error reporting - an oft > overlooked feature in a templating tool! (it's actually Armin > Ronacher's fault I started thinking about how to deal with the problem > of surrogate escaped strings escaping from their intended "retrieve > from OS API, pass straight back to OS API" box - he did an excellent > write-up of how this can go wrong after finishing the Werkzeug and > Jinja2 Python 3 updates: see > http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2013/5/21/porting-to-python-3-redux/ and > http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2013/7/2/the-updated-guide-to-unicode/). <nod> Armin Ronacher is one of the few people that I find is a reliable ally in identifying unicode vs byte issues. Relating a bit to your earlier email where you were talking about throwing an exception when mixing tainted strings and my feeling that that would be a design wart -- Armin's unicodenazi module ( https://pypi.python.org/pypi/unicode-nazi ) is an example of trying to make errors in python2 text+bytes handling show up when code is run regardless of the data (it still isn't perfect as someone can give u'string' as a parameter in testing and b'string' as a parameter in real-life but does catch a lot of places where people are successfully mixing u'string' and b'string' only because they are only testing with an ascii dataset.) -Toshio
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