On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:28:33AM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
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> Are Matthew's replies stuck in the python-devel moderation queue?
> (Just realised the likely reason I'm only seeing half this
> conversation...)
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> Hmm, also just realised I've been hitting Reply-List, so my replies
> are only going to python-devel...
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Yeah, the bulk of the conversation has been hitting the
devel lists.fedoraproject.org list.  Only a few messages have gone only to
python-devel lists.fp.o  (and quite a few messages are going only to
devel lists.fp.o)

> > If your needs are very minimal, python3-tempita might be a good
> > choice. If you actually do need more features than that,
> > python-mako and python-jinja2 are popular.  Note that both of those
> > have a few deps (but hopefully not as bad as cheetah).  (Also --
> > the python3 version of mako has less deps than the python2
> > version... I think that it just because those deps haven't been
> > ported to python3 yet and the package can operate with reduced
> > functionality without them.  the deps fo the python3 version might 
> > expand i nthe future).
> 
> Jinja2 is excellent, with very high quality error reporting - an oft
> overlooked feature in a templating tool! (it's actually Armin
> Ronacher's fault I started thinking about how to deal with the problem
> of surrogate escaped strings escaping from their intended "retrieve
> from OS API, pass straight back to OS API" box - he did an excellent
> write-up of how this can go wrong after finishing the Werkzeug and
> Jinja2 Python 3 updates: see
> http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2013/5/21/porting-to-python-3-redux/ and
> http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2013/7/2/the-updated-guide-to-unicode/).

<nod>  Armin Ronacher is one of the few people that I find is a reliable
ally in identifying unicode vs byte issues.  Relating a bit to your earlier
email where you were talking about throwing an exception when mixing tainted
strings and my feeling that that would be a design wart -- Armin's
unicodenazi module ( https://pypi.python.org/pypi/unicode-nazi ) is an
example of trying to make errors in python2 text+bytes handling show up when
code is run regardless of the data (it still isn't perfect as someone can
give u'string' as a parameter in testing and b'string' as a parameter in
real-life but does catch a lot of places where people are successfully
mixing u'string' and b'string' only because they are only testing with an
ascii dataset.)

-Toshio

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