... actually, thank you Sven (but Mark also. And all the contributors to
the discussion, even those I disagree with).

On Oct 16, 2016 10:47 AM, "David Mertz" <me...@gnosis.cx> wrote:

> Actually, I agree with Marietta. I don't care whatsoever about mocking me,
> which was a certain element of it. I have thick skin and am confident in
> these conversations.
>
> The part that was probably over the line was mocking children who learn to
> program or those who teach them. That's a huge and great job. I know I
> would not have the skill to teach children effectively. Adults with
> technical expertise are much easier for me.
>
> That said, thank you Mark for your empirical research with a test subject.
>
> Best, David
>
> On Oct 16, 2016 9:39 AM, "Mark Lawrence via Python-ideas" <
> python-ideas@python.org> wrote:
>
>> On 16/10/2016 16:41, Mariatta Wijaya wrote:
>>
>>> Her reaction was hilarious:
>>>>
>>>> "Whom does he teach? Children?"
>>>>
>>>
>>> I sense mockery in your email, and it does not conform to the PSF code
>>> of conduct. Please read the CoC before posting in this mailing list. The
>>> link is available at the bottom of every python mailing list
>>> email.https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
>>> <https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/>
>>> I don't find teaching children is a laughing matter, neither is the idea
>>> of children learning to code.
>>> In Canada, we have initiatives like Girls Learning Code and Kids
>>> Learning Code. I mentored in a couple of those events and the students
>>> are girls aged 8-14. They surprised me with their abilities to learn. I
>>> would suggest looking for such mentoring opportunities in your area to
>>> gain appreciation with this regard.
>>> Thanks.
>>> (Sorry to derail everyone from the topic of list comprehension. Please
>>> continue!)
>>>
>>>
>> The RUE was allowed to insult the community for years and got away with
>> it.  I'm autistic, stepped across the line, and got hammered.  Hypocrisy at
>> its best.  Even funnier, the BDFL has asked for my advice in recent weeks
>> with respect to the bug tracker.  I've replied, giving the bare minimum
>> that I feel I can give within the circumstances.
>>
>> Yours most disgustingly.
>>
>> Mark Lawrence.
>>
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