On 7/11/2017 11:30 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Commenting more on specific technical details rather than just tone this time :)

On 11 July 2017 at 20:19, Victor Stinner <victor.stin...@gmail.com> wrote:

Reference counting may be emulated in a future implementation for
backward compatibility.

One heavy user's experience with garbage collection:
https://engineering.instagram.com/dismissing-python-garbage-collection-at-instagram-4dca40b29172

"Instagram can run 10% more efficiently. ... Yes, you heard it right! By disabling GC [and relying only on ref counting], we can reduce the memory footprint and improve the CPU LLC cache hit ratio"

It turned out that gc.disable() was inadequate because imported libraries could turn it on, and one did.

I don't believe this is the best rationale to use for the PEP, as we
(or at least I) have emphatically promised *not* to do another Python
3 style compatibility break, and we know from PyPy's decade of
challenges that a lot of Python's users care even more about CPython C
API/ABI compatibility than they do the core data model.

[snip most]

--
Terry Jan Reedy

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