On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 1:18 AM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer <
arj.pyt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Here is a draft after the stdlib module discussion
> <https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/thread/XSYEVRPJQUX7VBTPNIJMUFZQIZ7WLOQU/>
> .
>

why don't you make a PR add this to:

https://github.com/PythonCHB/PythonListsSummaries/tree/master/source/python_ideas

-CHB



>
> Abstract
> =======
>
> Proposal: Adding a stdlib module to the standard library
>
> Defining the stdlib
> ==============
>
> Would the stdlib module be OS-independent or not? A better approach would
> be to go along the standard modules as defined in the docs
> <https://docs.python.org/3/library/index.html>. You get to know all
> modules within the stdlib, it even lists curses on windows (see benefit at
> 2. below) with info. But it does not let you access it if you want to use
> it when importing. Same for the third issue:
>
> The third issue is alternative Python implementations, discussed at
> concerns no.2.
>
> Advantages of having a stdlib module
> =============================
>
> Below are some benefits of having such a module:
>
> - 1 Knowing what module can be imported without installing
>
> This can be useful for interactive learning. Like with the inbuilt
> builtins library, one get to know what builtins are there in Python, though
> it's not the lib's only use. In the spirit of the keyword module, it can
> also check if an import forms part of the std lib
>
> - 2 Check for accidental name collisions
>
> It might come in handy to check for python platform collisions. An
> intersection between their modules will do the job
>
> - 3 Namespaced imports
>
> import math
>
> could be used as
>
> stdlib.math
>
> to better distinguish.
>
> Concerns
> ========
>
> - 1. Backward compatibility
>
> Python 4.0 codes might contain codes incompatible with previous versions
>
> - 2. Different standard modules
>
> If a Python implementation adds in a module, would codes implementing
>
> stdlib.fancy_lib
>
> on a diffrent platform not get broken? That is essentially the same as
> executing curses on windows or RPi on Raspberry Pi - Raspian. Just like RPi
> codes would not run on a windows, similarly, stdlib.fancy_lib would not run
> on the standard C implementation.
>
>
> Ideas and Implementations
> ====================
>
> - Andrew Barnert implemented a version of stdlib
> <https://github.com/abarnert/stdlib> where you can import without having
> to imply where the module is meaning instead of from x.y import z, you do:
> from stdlib import z
>
> - Each implementation could hardcode the names of std modules which could
> be accessed by stdlib for listing and imports
>
> - Use what help('modules') uses i.e pkgutil.walk_packages minus 3rd party
> modules
>
> - This stdlib implemenation
> <https://github.com/jackmaney/python-stdlib-list> from Jack Maney
> essentially hardcodes the libs like here
> <https://github.com/jackmaney/python-stdlib-list/blob/master/stdlib_list/lists/3.7.txt>
> .
>
> - The real implementation is up to ... be implemented.
>
> Draft containing inputs from:
>
> Andrew Barnert
> Chris Angelico
> Christopher Barker
> Steve Barnes
> Steven D'Aprano
>
> --
> Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
> pythonmembers.club <http://www.pythonmembers.club/> | github.com
> <https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ>
> Mauritius
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