See also the rejected PEP 351. 

--
Eric

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Cameron Simpson <c...@cskk.id.au> wrote:
> 
> Well, I've just waded through this discussion.
> 
> This all feels to me like a special case of "wanting a constant for 
> bytecode".  What is we had a "freeze" operator, eg:
> 
>    |foo|
> 
> which would produce a frozen version of foo. I'm liking the vertical 
> bars myself, I think because it feels vaguely slightly analogous to 
> "absolute value". So (assuming we can squeeze it into the expression 
> syntax):
> 
>    |{1,2,3}|
> 
> always makes a direct frozen set on the same basis that:
> 
>    x in {1,2,3}
> 
> directly makes a frozenset by expression inspection. Then 
> 
> Paired with a __freeze__ dunder method, this applies to any type, not 
> just sets. (Where appropriate of course.)
> 
> So:
> 
>    |{1,2,3}|       frozen set
>    |[1,2,3]|       tuple!
>    |any-iterable|  tuple!
>    |{1:2, 3:4}|    frozen dict
> 
> Ths saves us (a) inventing a special syntax for frozen sets and (b) 
> gateways to freezing many things, starting with the obvious above, via 
> the __freeze__ dunder method.
> 
> This feels more general and less bikeshedable.
> 
> My main question is: is the syntax unambiguous?
> 
> Cheers,
> Cameron Simpson <c...@cskk.id.au>
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