Hey Christ, We can always think in terms of weighted vote, the more your account is "well-established" (either by being ancient or by contributing) the more it's vote has weight.
Anyway, just a suggestion. Regards, -- SENHAJI RHAZI Hamza Le dim. 20 févr. 2022 à 09:43, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> a écrit : > On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 18:05, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 06:04:28AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > > > Popularity is a *terrible* way to judge ideas. I'm currently fighting > > > with another platform on that same topic. > > > > Can we ask which platform? > > Not on-list, out of courtesy. It's unrelated. > > > > All you can see from a system like that is how many of the popular > > > ideas get implemented. It says nothing about how many good ideas end > > > up languishing with a small number of votes, simply because they never > > > reach critical mass and not enough people see them. > > > > Rather like the way we tell people to publish on PyPI and see if it > > becomes popular. > > Yes and no. Python doesn't use PyPI download counts to decide what > gets added to the standard library, for instance. A package is not > judged solely on the basis of some form of upvote. We tell people to > publish and see, but even if it isn't popular, it's still on PyPI and > has whatever value it has. > > > > Does GetSatisfaction allow downvotes? If yes: how do you stop a vocal > > > few from shooting down any idea they don't like? > > > > Nothing like Python-Ideas then :-) > > > > Typically voting systems only allow logged-in users to vote, and you can > > only vote once. You can change your vote at any time, but a vocal few is > > limited to only downvoting once each, they can't vote a thousand times > > each and overwhelm the popular voice. > > > > Same applies to up-voting. > > Question: Do votes from newly-created accounts have as much weight as > those from well-established accounts? I can assure you, from > experience, that there is no correct answer to this question, and that > the vocal few can always shoot down ideas they don't like, if > downvoting is a possibility. > > > > There is no way to make a popular vote fair. > > > > That's an odd take. > > "Fair" is such an ill-defined concept that the statement is almost > vacuously true. But here's one simple example: Politics in the United > Kingdom can be seen to be somewhat England-dominated, due to the > population density. This can lead to Scotland being underrepresented. > Or does it? Maybe Scotland is represented precisely as much as it > deserves to be. Or maybe not. What is fair? > > (It's quite amusing playing a grand strategy game and having Scotland > conquer all of England by forming military alliances with Austria as > well as France. Yeah, who's underrepresented now, huh?) > > > A better take is that, fair or not, popularity is not necessarily a good > > judge of what works well in a language. Language design requires skill > > and taste, and it is not obvious that the wisdom of the crowd extends > > that far. > > Yes, this is also true. And on the rare occasions when a poll is > conducted, it is purely for information, and is never binding. > Citation: PEP 308. > > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0308/#detailed-results-of-voting > > The C-like question/colon syntax and a parenthesized form of if > statement were both significantly more popular than the syntax that > ended up implemented. If the matter had been "put to a vote", we'd > have had a quite different result. And honestly, I'm glad of it. > > ChrisA > _______________________________________________ > Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/LCJJ7MGBUBD6UEIZW3B2U4XT4EXQMMSU/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >
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