On 15 Jul 2023, at 23:14, Dom Grigonis <dom.grigo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am well aware of that.

I just argue that it is not very pleasant to read.

Personally, I am not a big user of it.

C’s although maybe doesn’t have words to read, but is much more pleasant in both conciseness and logical sequence.

Maybe it is not a big issue for others, but if C’s style conditional _expression_ existed, it would significantly change the way I write things.

I agree with you and avoid the python version, and refactor it out of code.
As you say ii also find it hard to read, and familiarity is not helping.
The C and rust versions I do use.

Barry


So just checking. :)

On 16 Jul 2023, at 00:06, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 at 21:09, Dom Grigonis <dom.grigo...@gmail.com> wrote:
So I would vote for something similar to:
result = bar is None ? default : bar

result = default if bar is None else bar

Python has a conditional _expression_ already.
Paul 

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