BTW, & regardless of the debate, FaceBook also contributes to open-source (see their github page <http://github.com/facebook/tornado/>), including Tornado <http://github.com/facebook/tornado/> (a scalable Python-based web-server developed at FriendFeed) & Cassandra<http://github.com/facebook/cassandra> (one of the best non-relational databases).
Udi On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Meir Kriheli <[email protected]> wrote: > On 01/04/2010 02:05 AM, Idan Gazit wrote: > > > > On Jan 4, 2010, at 12:12 AM, Meir Kriheli > > wrote:web-server<http://github.com/facebook/tornado/tree/master/tornado/> > > > >> On 01/03/2010 08:18 PM, Idan Gazit wrote: > >>> Sorry, this thread has devolved into philosophical BS. > >> > > > >> And the list goes on. Those things are important to me, and even if > >> they cost me money I'm standing by them. Calling my way of life and > >> choices "BS" or zealotry is not taken lightly. > >> > > > > I didn't call your choices BS. Kol haKavod that you maintain a strict > > diet of only Free Software. I think that unless you practice this > > strict diet (no closed-source tool, no google, etc) then saying that > > usage of Facebook is "more evil" than the next is hypocritical. > > > > Not really, as Google advances FOSS, pays each summer to programmers to > work on FOSS (including Django and Python), provides a CDN for lots of > FOSS libraries, release large amounts of code as FOSS (for many > languages/frameworks), and even hosting some python web group's > meetings. To make a leap from them to facebook and calling it hypocrisy > isn't serious. > > But that's orthogonal to the discussion: my (and other hackers) ban on > facebook is not FOSS related (I'm not the one who brought that up) but a > _social_ one. I expect hackers, more than others, to understand that. > > > In the end, saying "service X is evil and I won't use it" is almost > > always a rationalization. If you take that approach to its logical > > end, then you should be a hermit in a cave in Nepal, growing the food > > you eat. In reality, we choose compromises based on cost (time or > > money), and those choices are subjective. > > > > I have no problem with anybody having strong opinions about which > > compromises are better than others, so long as you realize that you > > are arguing from a purely subjective basis. There is no "fact" > > underneath most of these arguments, just feelings of which tradeoffs > > are acceptable. > > Why make them ? There's already a hackers-il group which could > revitalize, they have a mailing list, and host a wiki which can be used > for organization: > > http://www.hackers.org.il/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page > > Cheers > -- > Meir > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "PyWeb-IL" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<pyweb-il%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/pyweb-il?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PyWeb-IL" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pyweb-il?hl=en.
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