[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are great Python Web Application Framework. But most of them are
meant for content oriented web apps.

Is there something that can ease the development of application that
are not content oriented(I call them "NON CONTENT-ORIENTED WEB
APPLICATIONS" because I don't know what else to call them).

Maybe you mean "interactive web applications", as opposed to "document-centric" applications? But then, that's what most frameworks are really designed for.


I mean the
applications like, accounting,  high volume data entry apps,  where
normally GUI clients have ruled. I know very high quality ERP and
similar packages have been implemented in a web based environment. But
problem is that they have been developed with the tools that were
actually meant for content oriented apps like Zope, PHP, etc.

Zope I'd say is content-oriented, though with a bit of imagination you can phrase these applications in terms of "content". PHP and many other Python frameworks are process-oriented, meaning that each request just plain executes some code. Which is true of Zope too, but the basic metaphors in Zope are that a request displays the view of some object, which is a little more abstract way of looking at it.


But is there some sort of framework or something that is actually meant
for such web apps,application that make heavy use of forms, have very
high amount of user interaction etc.

Do you mean non-traditional web applications, ala gmail? Probably not, I think you are talking about certain framework concerns that most frameworks aspire to in some fashion, but actually achieve to differing degrees. PEAK addresses some of these, but in a UI-neutral way, and it's quite experimental (at least in the perspective of a whole application; as robust as the individual pieces may be, there's no real model for how to use it for a full application).


There's other form processing libraries, but they all are experimental in a way. I developed FormEncode, which relates to some of this. Zope 3 has Schemas, which can be used for form generation and validation, and Plone has Archetypes. I don't think there's anything that's a Whole Package, but Zope 3 and Plone/Archetypes might be the closest (depending on what your vision is).

What I am asking here may sound off beat, but I think, in todays world
where web based solutions offers such a flexibility, we really need it.

I also know that I am to ambiguous, but as is the characteristic of
this wonderful community, talks that start as most abigous, transform
in crystal clear.

PS: I am a web developer, using PHP for living. I have been playing
with python for a while. I found python is really a cool language(do I
need to say that ;-)) with a really, really impressive collection of
modules and frameworks. While developing a school information system, I
felt the need of such a framework that makes developing of "Non-Content
Oriented Web-Apps" easy.

Eh, it just needs some clear direction for *any* kind of web apps, IMHO.

But with what you are specifically asking for, I think it's just a Hard Problem that Is Not Yet Solved, though there is work being done and people are attacking it from different directions.

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