On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Batista, Facundo wrote: Maybe OP doesn't yet fully comprehend the ways of Python universe?
As for his claims, I am quite surprised that Python lacks something in the docs. Concerning better hierarchy in the standard library, it is interesting that there are some movements in this direction: xml package, email package, etc. Probably Iwan thinks that letting more "hierachiesness" into std lib Python will be "cleaner". Yes, it will probably look "more organized" this way, but I do not like the idea: import time.time import time.calendar ... import web.url.openers import net.http ... import datatypes.string import textprocessing.re etc. > [Iwan van der Kleyn] > > #- need: a better standard ide, an integrated db interface with > #- a proper > #- set of db drivers (!!), a better debugger, a standard widget/windows > #- toolkit, something akin to a standard for web programming, better > #- documentation, a standard lib which is better organized, a > #- formalized > #- set of protocols and patterns for program construction. And an > #- interpreter which is fast enough to avoid using C or Pyrex in most > #- obvious cases. > > Let's take one by one: > > - IDE: Better than what? Than IDLE? Than Eclipse? Than SPE? Than Pythonwin? > > - Integrated DB interface with a proper set of db drivers (what means the > "!!"?): What do you mean with an integrated db interface? An standard API to > access different DB engines? Something like the Database API specification > (http://www.python.org/topics/database/DatabaseAPI-2.0.html)? There's a SIG > on DB at http://www.python.org/sigs/db-sig/ you may want to look at. > Regarding drivers, to what DB do you miss one? > > - Debugger: Again, better than what? I use the debugger in IDLE and it's > pretty ok. > > - Standard widget/windows toolkit: More standard than Tk? > > - Something akin to a standard for web programming: specifically? > > - Better documentation: Did you find *any* issue in the docs? And why you > didn't post a bug on that? > > - Better organization of the std lib: What do you propose (specifically)? > Please, in your proposal, take in consideration migration plans and how the > migration affect actual systems. And of course, why the new organization is > better than the old one. BTW, I also think that it should be better > organized, but don't know how. > > - a formalized set of protocols and patterns for program construction: a > what? > > - an interpreter which is fast enough to avoid using C or Pyrex in most > obvious cases: CPython is More Than Fast Enough. In which obvious cases it's > not enough for you? > > Don't misinterpret this response. I know it was a rambling. But *maybe* you > have something to contribute to Python development, even good ideas only and > no work. > > . Facundo Sincerely yours, Roman A.Suzi -- - Petrozavodsk - Karelia - Russia - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list