ok. indeed i did do '' instead of ' '.
here is an example of a message
'STX\x00\x00\x004\x00\x00\x00\xc8stateman\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00state1man\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00ENX'

tohex gave me '53 54 58 00 00 00 34 00 00 00 c8 70 69 76 6f 74 72 61 63
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 74 72 61 63 31 70 69 76
6f 74 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 45 4e 58'

this is the login message (message type 200)

i will try out your code sample when i get to work in the morning.

thanks, gents, for your time and attention on this

sk

John Machin wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
> > On 2006-07-24, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > >> now the 17758 is significant because it is the actual unit number of
> > >> the machine we want to monitor. I just dont know how to extract the
> > >> real values out of this message.
> >
> > What is meant by "real values"?
> >
>
> :-)
> I guess he means "real" as opposed to unreal/surreal/virtual/imagined,
> not as in the FORTRAN programmer's credo:
> """
> GOD is REAL
> JESUS is INTEGER
> """
> (-:

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