jfj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just realized that I'm trolling.
I'm glad you're retracting your earlier assertion that "There is no trolling involved here". Everybody can err, but to admit and apologize takes character: may I offer my warmest handshake. Back when I was a Python newbie (and identified as such even in the Subject of my early posts) I had my ideas about how Python should change, too: it should grow a '__contains__' special method to let a container optimize membership tests (the `in' operator); it should have a specialized iterator protocol, rather than always relying on indexing for iteration; it should be possible to subclass builtin types, e.g. dictionary; ... you can read all about it on google, including my request to """Please consider "IMHO"'s to be liberally inserted in what follows, of course!-).""" It turned out that __contains__ was already in the plans (which I did not know about): I had even guessed the *name*! The iterator protocol and subclassing builtin types took a bit longer to appear (and the eventual name was __iter__ while my original idea was __enum__; and it's still not fully possible insert a subclassed dict anywhere a dict may be used) but eventually they did. And yet for all of this I ended up in a flamewar with the timbot anyway... it solved itself and we made friends, but still, I'm quite familiar with the pickles a newbie can get into;-). Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list