On 9 mayo, 17:42, Bruno Desthuilliers
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
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> > Hi all,
> > I am more or less new to Python, and currently am making my
> > first "serious" program. The application is a Clinical History manager
> > (for my wife) which stores its data on a sqlite database. After
> > googling on this newsgroup, I have read several threads where is
> > stated that the LBYL way of testing parameters is not a pythonic way
> > to work, and that is preferable catch the exceptions generated trying
> > to use an invalid parameter passed to a function.
> > Although I am generally following this approach, the problem I
> > see is that sqlite docs states clearly that the engine does not check
> > that the data types passed to the SQL sentences matches the types
> > declared for the column, and lets any kind of information to be put in
> > any column of the table. When I code the "business objects" of the
> > application (don't know if this is the exact term for a layer that
> > will isolate the application from the raw database, letting me change
> > it in a future if necessary),
>
> business objects and databases are not necessarily related. And business
> objects are much more than a "database abstraction layer" - they are the
> "model" part of the MVC triad, and are the heart of your application's
> logic. As such, they are of course in charge of validating their own
> state wrt/ business rules.
>
> > I realize that if I pass arguments of
> > wrong type (say, a numeric ID instead of the patient name), the DB
> > engine will accept that gladly, and I will finish with data that could
> > not be consistently retrievable if I use the DB from another program
> > (no one right now, but I think of, perhaps, statistical trends on
> > diseases and treatments).
> > In this case, could be reasonable add type checking LBYL style
> > on the methods, so if passed data is of wrong type, it generates a
> > adequate exception to be catched by the caller?
>
> This is more a problem of validation/conversion of values than strictly
> a typing problem IMHO. As someone said : "be liberal about what you
> accept and strict about what you send".
>
> > In this way, the rest
> > of the app (mostly GUI) can be coded EAFP style. As programming
> > background, as you can guess, I have made some programming in C, VBA
> > and JavaScript (quite procedurally).
> > I hope that you can bring me some light about this kind of
> > design, so I can improve my coding and get the Python way faster.
>
> I strongly encourage you to have a look at SQLAlchemy (a hi-level
> RDBMS/python interface and an ORM) and Elixir (an ActiveRecord-like
> declarative layer on top of SQLAlchemy), and FormEncode (an in/out
> validation/conversion package).
>
> http://www.sqlalchemy.org/http://elixir.ematia.de/
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> FWIW, I'm actually working on using the second to add
> validation/conversion to the
> first:http://groups.google.com/group/sqlelixir/browse_thread/thread/af7b2d0...
Hi all:
First of all I give Bruno many thanks for the definition of
business objects, because plugs a big hole on my concepts. And after
reading your messages, I reach to the conclussion that the best I can
do with my program is to unittest more (against my own dumbness) the
classes that will call the interfase, and take out all the type
checking code from the callees. And in the event that the program
could grow/evolve in something more serious, change the RDBMS to
another more fit to the task.
Thank you very much and May Entropy be benevolent with you.
Walter
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