In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Behnel wrote: > René Fleschenberg wrote: >> We all know what the PEP is about (we can read). The point is: If we do >> not *need* non-English/ASCII identifiers, we do not need the PEP. If the >> PEP does not solve an actual *problem* and still introduces some >> potential for *new* problems, it should be rejected. So far, the >> "problem" seems to just not exist. The burden of proof is on those who >> support the PEP. > > The main problem here seems to be proving the need of something to people who > do not need it themselves. So, if a simple "but I need it because a, b, c" is > not enough, what good is any further prove?
Maybe all the (potential) programmers that can't understand english and would benefit from the ability to use non-ASCII characters in identifiers could step up and take part in this debate. In an english speaking newsgroup… =:o) There are potential users of Python who don't know much english or no english at all. This includes kids, old people, people from countries that have "letters" that are not that easy to transliterate like european languages, people who just want to learn Python for fun or to customize their applications like office suites or GIS software with a Python scripting option. Some people here seem to think the user base is or should be only from the computer science domain. Yes, if you are a programming professional it may be mandatory to be able to write english identifiers, comments and documentation, but there are not just programming professionals out there. Ciao, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list