In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bjorn Borud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ snip ] > a lot of IDE's are getting quite good and you don't have to mouse > around all that much. I think the main reason I stick to Emacs is > because I use it for a wider range of tasks -- not just programming. > > also, the IDE's I've used in the past were sluggish and for some > reason the font-rendering was really hard to get right (if at > all). when you spend the majority of your waking hours editing text, > interactive response time and "editing ergonomics" matter a lot. > > > this reminds me that it is probably time to give IDEs another chance. > it has been a couple of years since the last time I tried a couple for > Java. > A few words from someone else with a strong preference for "learn one editor well and use it for all text editing" (though maybe I should admit that my preference is for vim) ....: I use Eclipse in teaching second-semester programming, mostly because my department decided it was good to expose students to command-line tools in CS1 and a "modern" IDE in CS2. In general it's annoying not to have all those years of vi(m) experience making things easy for me, and a lot of the features others find wonderful I find annoying, *but*: Eclipse has something that generates "import" statements with a few keystrokes, and for me that's almost in the "killer app [feature]" class. (Why do I strongly suspect that with the right plug-ins emacs can do this too? :-) That would send me searching for the Web site where vim macros are collected.) -- B. L. Massingill ObDisclaimer: I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list