Hi everyone, I'm glad to have found this list.

I've written a small script for my own use which, amongst other things, captures mouse click information from a window containing an image. I used Pygame to manage the image window, as it was the easiest way to implement the functionality I needed. The surrounding interface windows (there are two) are constructed with Tkinter.

Despite their unholy union, Pygame and Tkinter seem, generally, to cooperate. I'm using this main loop to update one, then the other:

while 1:
gameLoop() # This function pumps the Pygame events and checks for mouse and keyboard events
pygame.time.wait(10)
mainwin.update() # mainwin is an instance of Application class, which is a child of Tkinter.frame


I have my interface set up so that when *any* of the windows' close boxes are clicked, this function will be called:

# This portion of the Pygame loop calls doquit() when it gets a 'QUIT' event...
def gameLoop():
pygame.event.pump()
for event in pygame.event.get():
if event.type == QUIT:
doquit()
# Etc.


# And this portion of the Tkinter interface sets the WM_DELETE_WINDOW protocol to call doquit()
def createWidgets(self):
self.title("Region Management")
self.geometry('+830+8')
self.protocol("WM_DELETE_WINDOW", doquit)
# Etc.


# A temporary file is removed, and both Pygame and Tkinter are instructed to quit
def doquit():
if os.access('recalc.tmp', os.F_OK):
os.remove('recalc.tmp')
pygame.quit()
mainwin.master.destroy()


Perhaps you've begun to see where I might be having problems. You see, if I close the script by closing the Pygame window, I get this exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "D:\Development\Python\sludge helpers\addScreenRegion helper.pyw", line 363, in ?
mainwin.update()
File "C:\Python24\lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py", line 859, in update
self.tk.call('update')
TclError: can't invoke "update" command: application has been destroyed


Conversely, if I close the application by closing a Tkinter window, I get this exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "D:\Development\Python\sludge helpers\addScreenRegion helper.pyw", line 361, in ?
gameLoop()
File "D:\Development\Python\sludge helpers\addScreenRegion helper.pyw", line 203, in gameLoop
pygame.event.pump()
error: video system not initialized


Obviously, Pygame doesn't like Tkinter telling it to quit (when it's trying to do something from its internal loop) and vice versa. Is there a simple way that I can avoid getting these exceptions on exit, or have I taken the wrong approach? Everything else appears to work fine. Please do excuse me if this seems a silly question, as I'm fairly new to Python and Pygame, and a total novice when it comes to Tkinter.

On a side note, has anyone else found the Tkinter documentation awfully obscure? I've found Python a joy to learn about, and Pygame's tutorials are a lot of fun. I can't say the same for Tkinter, and found myself having to do many Google searches before I uncovered information I could put to use. Has anyone found any high-quality (online) documentation that proves me wrong? :^)

Thanks in advance,
Tim Knauf
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