> I'm, not sure that I'm getting your point, but are you trying to argue that > _not_ knowing mathemathics makes you a better programmer?
No but it doesn't help you very much either. They are just different skills. > Or maybe that learning math is useless to a programmer? No and at least the mathematical idea of building a universe on a basic set of axioms is pretty exciting for a programmer. But it's the idea not the real wisdom (I never had to use any serious maths in my 25 years of programming) that you need as a programmer > This must be the most ignorant post I've seen > this week. The *best* programmers I've seen actually had mathematic education. Depends. I would call Knuth as one of the worst programmers. Look at his total failures on literature programming. Software Engineering is something very different. Having a dead - i mean end of development line software like TeX - and then trying to base a theory about software engineering (which is based on changes) is so absolutely stupid ... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list