johnbraduk a écrit : > Thomas, > Like many others I have been going round the same loop for months. > > I have struggled with most of the Python solutions, including > TurboGears and have given up and gone back to ColdFusion. I am not > trying to kick of a religious war about the pros and cons of > ColdFusion as a scripting langauge, but IMHO, as a development > environment (Dreamweaver), it is unbeatable.
Won't talk about opinion here. Enough to say that Dreamweaver is IMHO a bloated piece of crap. > In one product, "out of > the box" I can integrate database access and web design, Which are totally orthogonal aspects, and as such are better kept seperate. In my current shop - as well as in the previous one, programmers deal with database access, designers deal with design, and integrators deal with html and templates. > including > AJAX, in one GUI IDE. I don't want a "GUI IDE", I want my code editor. Using which I can edit (x)html, css, any template language, javascript, python, php, sql, whatever... > Ok, the IDE is on Windows, but the servers run > on Linux. No way I'm going to inflict myself the pain of using Windows. Sorry. > This seems to be an aspect of web design that has been totally > ignored in the Python community. (snip rant about having too much choice) > Am I asking too much to have a Python product "X" which is a fully > self-contained web development framework? Have you tried Django ? One of the main criticism against it is that it's a bit too much "self-contained" !-) But anyway, since all these are free softwares - freely written and contributed by mostly benelovent contributors -, yes, you *are* "asking" too much. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list