re being serious I am serious. I am seriously trying to develop a nice language for beginners. I was at Dartmouth in 1965 when BASIC was new. It let me use the computer without learning Fortran. It was very successful. I think it's past time for another one. I think we could have a lot more capability with more simplicity than you find in Visual Basic.
re DLing source As a "solution" to the problem of wanting a program on my computer, it sucks. On Windows I'll DL an install package, "accept" a license agreement, click Next a few times (no, I can't make a cup of coffee because the minute I step away the "Wizard" will ask a question), ... With CNR the commitment is that I CAN walk away. I do not know who should be responsible for putting things in the warehouse. I do wish that the *n*x community would create some sensible standards so the 'our distro doesn't put things where others do' would stop being an issue. Looking in "/usr/bin" and its brethren makes "c:\Program Files" seem organized. re changing distros because apt-get could do the job I'll take your words for the superiority of Ubuntu. But I'll not change from one problem (can't find the python-devel that python.org says I need) to another (installing a new OS). I bought my Linspire computer with the OS installed. I've no interest in mastering the art of installing Linux. I'm a big fan of KDE, KATE and Konqueror and having a dozen desktops for a dozen projects. I do not miss crashes and viruses. I do not miss shelling out hundreds of bucks for an office suite. So for now I'll just pretend that Windows is desktop 13. A KVM helps. I'll remember that you don't type "uptime" in the DOS window. Oh, yeah. I'll remember that my NAV subscription expired. Gotta renew. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list