On Mar 17, 8:16 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Carl Banks writes: > >> On Mar 16, 10:49 pm, Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> On Mar 16, 8:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: > > >>>> If you did not like the programming this year (aside from the > >>>> sponsor talks) and you did not participate in organizing PyCon > >>>> or in delivering presentations, it is YOUR FAULT. PERIOD. > >>>> EXCLAMATION POINT! > > >>> I find this insulting, inexcusable, and utter nonsense. If > >>> putting the blame for a failed experiment on the backs of the > >>> good folks who paid good money for travel, lodging, and > >>> registration is also an experiment, you can hereby consider it > >>> also failed. > > >> He said "aside from the sponsor talks", chief. > > >I see no reason why the "fault" for parts of the rest being > >sub-optimal, too, must necessarily be on the attendee's side. (Just > >hypothetically; I wasn't at PyCon.) > > Let's suppose you have a group of friends who collectively throw a party. > They invite you to help out organizing it and putting it together, but > you choose not to. If you don't have a good time at the party because it > wasn't what you wanted, I think it's fair to say it was your fault. And > I think exactly the same thing is true for PyCon, albeit on a much larger > scale. > > It is absolutely critical to the long-term success of PyCon as a > volunteer-run community conference that each attendee take responsibility > for their experience. Science fiction fandom -- the part that holds > volunteer-run events such as Worldcon -- has lots of experience with this > model. It is one reason why such cons make a fuss about attendees being > "members", compared to "purchasing a ticket" (which is what you do for a > commercialized Star Trek con). > -- > Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ > > "It is easier to optimize correct code than to correct optimized code." > --Bill Harlan
You have a lot of good points, Aahz. I was thinking of the talks and such as a kind of seminar learning event, not a participatory community event. I went for two reasons: 1) To learn more Plone / Zope 2) To hang out with Python geeks The first one I didn't really get anywhere with, but I got lots of time with PyCon attendees, which was cool. I hope I can go next year, make new friends and maybe present some of my own stuff. Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
