[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I encountered garbage collection behaviour that I didn't expect when
using a recursive function inside another function:

To understand this, it helps to realize that Python functions are not, in themselves, recursive. Recursiveness at any time is a property of a function in an environment, which latter can change. More specifically, a function call is recursive if the expression indicating the function to call happens to indicate the function containing the call at the time of evaluation just before the evaluation of the argument expressions. See examples below.

>  the definition of
the inner function seems to contain a circular reference, which means
it is only collected by the mark-and-sweep collector, not by reference
counting. Here is some code that demonstrates it:

The inner function is part of a circular reference that is originally part of the outer function, but which may survive the call to outer

def outer():
        def inner(n):
                if n == 0:
                        return 1
                else:
                        return n * inner(n - 1)

       inner1 = inner
       def inner(n): return 1
# original inner still exists but is no longer 'recursive'

def out2():
  def inner1(n): return 1
  def inner(n):
    if n: return n*inner1(n-1)
    else: return 1
  # inner is obviously not recursive
  inner1 = inner
  # but now it is

If the inner function is moved outside the scope of the outer
function, gc.garbage will be empty.

With 'inner' in the global namespace, no (circular) closure is needed to keep it alive past the outer lifetime.

> If the inner function is inside
but not recursive, gc.garbage will also be empty.

Not necessarily so. What matters is that inner has a non-local reference to outer's local name 'inner'. Try
  def inner(): return inner
which contains no calls, recursive or otherwise.

> If the outer  function is called twice,
>  there will be twice as many objects in gc.garbage.

And so on, until gc happens.

Is this expected behaviour?   Collecting an object when its refcount
reaches zero is preferable to collecting it with mark-and-sweep, but

Adding 'inner = None' at the end of an outer function will break the cycle and with CPython, all will be collected when outer exits.
Jython and IronPython do not, I believe, do reference counting.

Adding 'del inner' gives
SyntaxError: cannot delete variable 'inner' referenced in inner scope.

maybe there is a reason that a circular reference must exist in this
situation. I want to check that first so I don't report a bug for
something that is not a bug.

Not a bug, but an educational example and possibly useful to someone running on CPython with gc turned off and making lots of calls to functions with inner functions with recursive references. I learned a bit answering this.

Terry Jan Reedy

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