>> > One of the reasons I would like to formulate a good
>> > model of an object's value and type is so that I could
>> > try to offer something better.  Responses like yours
>> > are significantly demotivating.
>>
>> And yet you argue when people try to explain to you that objects don't
>> *have* values, objects *are* values. Objects have attributes, which are
>> references to other values. One of an object's attributes is its type.
> [...]
>
> Steve, since Gabriel does not want to go for the
> record in this thread :-), I posted my response as
> a reply to your most recent message in the "Official
> definition of call-by-value..." thread.
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And this thread has a good chance of becoming the "Longest and Most
Boring Python-URL Weekly Python News and Links Thread".

Cheers,
Daniel

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