Allowing "$" as a substitute for "self" wouldn't require this new syntax.
class C: def method($, arg): $.value = arg I'm strongly against this. This looks ugly and reminds me of Perl and Ruby. (I don't have anything against these languages, but there's a reason I use Python). Russ P. wrote: > On Dec 5, 6:21 pm, "Daniel Fetchinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been >> discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido >> himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfect sense >> and having both (old and new) in a future version of python is a >> possibility since it maintains backward compatibility. The alternative >> syntax will be syntactic sugar for the old one. This blog post of his >> is what I'm talking about: >> >> http://neopythonic.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-explicit-self-has-to-stay... >> >> The proposal is to allow this: >> >> class C: >> def self.method( arg ): >> self.value = arg >> return self.value >> >> instead of this: >> >> class C: >> def method( self, arg ): >> self.value = arg >> return self.value >> >> I.e. explicit self stays only the syntax is slightly different and may >> seem attractive to some. As pointed out by Guido classmethods would >> work similarly: >> >> class C: >> @classmethod >> def cls.method( arg ): >> cls.val = arg >> return cls.val >> >> The fact that Guido says, >> >> "Now, I'm not saying that I like this better than the status quo. But >> I like it a lot better than [...] but it has the great advantage that >> it is backward compatible, and can be evolved into a PEP with a >> reference implementation without too much effort." >> >> shows that the proposal is viable. >> >> I'd like this new way of defining methods, what do you guys think? >> Anyone ready for writing a PEP? >> >> Cheers, >> Daniel >> >> -- >> Psss, psss, put it down! -http://www.cafepress.com/putitdown > > I like it. > > I'll even go a step further and suggest that "$" be allowed as a > substitute for "self". It looks like a capital "S" (for Self), and it > stands out clearly. It also makes code more succinct with no loss of > readability. Think of the line wraps that could be avoided. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list