You are correct, terminology is a must. In order to stay on the same page.
And yes, it;s not technically by ref. but it works for me at the moment.

I was doing this in my code:
l={"user":"asdf","pass":"goog"}
d= {
    "login_url":"http://example.com/login";,
    "user":l["user"],
    "pass":l["pass"]

}
and it wouldn't work. So I had to do some research on how to make it work.
passing a mutable object resolved my problem. Thank you for correcting me.
-A

ps.I have this habit of pressing reply instead of reply to all. Working on
fixing that.
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