Emmanuel Surleau a écrit :
It still manages to retain flexibility, but you're basically stuck with
Django's ORM
You're by no way "stuck" with Django's ORM - you are perfectly free not
to use it. But then you'll obviously loose quite a lot of useful
features and 3rd part apps...
You lose most of what makes it worth using Django,
Mmmm... I beg to disagree. You still have the core framework (request /
response handling, sessions etc), the templating system, the form API
etc. As far as I'm concerned, it's quite enough to "make it worth".
The form API is pretty good, but I don't think the rest makes it stand out
that much, compared to other frameworks.
I don't care if it "stand out that much" - it works fine and is well
documented. Given that for most web apps, Django's ORM is a good enough
tool, I don't see the point in using 3 or more "different" frameworks
that basically do the same things in slightly different ways, each with
it's own strong and weak points.
To me, the notion of reusable apps
and the application ecosystem it allows is Django's most compelling feature.
+1.
You are, of course, welcome to disagree.
I'm not saying that Django is "better" than Pylons or web.py or (insert
yur favorite framework here) - and to be true, I think Pylons is
globally smarter than Django -, I'm saying that it do the job, and do it
well enough to be worth using. Sorry for being so pragmatic.
Having to implement a mini-parser for
each single tag
Most of the "mini-parser" stuff is so very easily factored out I'm
afraid I won't buy your argument.
You'll at least agree that in terms of line of codes necessary to implement a
custom tag, it's very far from optimal, I hope?
I also agree that in terms of LOCs necessary to implement a log file
parser, Python is also very far from optimal, at least compared to Perl !-)
How many Django custom tags did you write, exactly ? And of which level
of complexity ? Once again, I'm not pretending Django is the best thing
ever, but most of your remarks remind me of what I once could have say -
that is, before having enough experience writing and maintaining Django
apps. One of the greatest features of Django - and possibly what finally
makes it so pythonic - is that it doesn't try to be *too* smart - just
smart enough.
My 2 cents.
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