Stephen Hansen a écrit :
On 6/30/10 10:37 PM, Aahz wrote:
In article<4c29ad38$0$26210$426a7...@news.free.fr>,
Bruno Desthuilliers<bruno.42.desthuilli...@websiteburo.invalid>  wrote:
Aahz a écrit :
In article<4c285e7c$0$17371$426a7...@news.free.fr>,
Bruno Desthuilliers<bruno.42.desthuilli...@websiteburo.invalid>  wrote:
Aahz a écrit :
In article<4c2747c1$0$4545$426a7...@news.free.fr>,
Bruno Desthuilliers<bdesth.quelquech...@free.quelquepart.fr>  wrote:

Python has no pretention at "elegance".
That's not true at all. More precisely, I would agree with you if the
emphasis is on "pretention" but not if the emphasis is on elegance;
Python Zen, #9 (or #8 if you're a TrueHacker !-))

...and this implies that Python has no focus on elegance because...?

Nope, that was an answer about where the emphasis was in my previous
statement. I don't mean Python don't care about or is devoid of
elegance, just that it's not the primary concern - hence the "has no
pretention at" part.

It may not be "the" primary concern, but elegance certainly is *a*
primary concern.

I concur.

Its not explicitly stated, but it is the Zen 0. This is further supported by its implied presence in many of the Axioms and Truths of the Bots.

"Beautiful is better then ugly"; and then the praise of the explicit, of simplicity, of readability.

Elegance is a prime concern of Python, as it is the natural result of the Doctrines of Pythonicity. It may not be stated as a rule, but it a the reward that we are given for following the path of enlightenment.


"Elegance" (just like "beauty") is in the eyes of the beholder.

Explicitness, simplicity and readability are indeed primary concerns in Python's design, but "elegance" is not. Now you'll of course find Python mostly elegant *if* you value expliciteness, simplicity and readability, but that's only because your definition of "elegant" happens to match Guido's.

But please gentlemen, let's not fight on this. This no religion, there's no dogma here, and no heretic to burn.


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