On 2010-11-05, Steven D'Aprano <st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au> wrote: > On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:17:35 +0000, Seebs wrote: >> That was the thing which bit me the worst. I had a fairly large block >> of code in a first-pass ugly program. I wanted to start refactoring it, >> so I moved a big hunk of code into a method (with plans to further >> refactor). It took about fifteen minutes to redo the logic.
> Well there's your problem -- you are relying on tools that operate by > magic. Wrong. > Rather than re-create the logic, why not just hit Undo and then re-paste > the code *without* the magic auto-reformat? Half a second, to undo and re- > paste, followed by 10 or 20 seconds to select the appropriate lines and > *explicitly* re-indent the lines to the correct level. There was no magic auto-reformat. Where did you invent that from? Why are you making stuff up which I never said or referred to? > For somebody who keeps tossing around the mantra that "explicit is better > than implicit", you're amazingly reliant on a tool that performs massive, > apparently irreversible formatting operations implicitly. No, I am not. No such tool was involved. I never mentioned one, referred to one, or hinted at one -- and have never used one, because I hate them. In fact, it is ludicrous to imagine that I was using one, given that I've stated in this very thread that so far as I know such a tool cannot be created for Python. Your decision to invent something I never referred to is not a problem with my approach to the language. -s -- Copyright 2010, all wrongs reversed. Peter Seebach / usenet-nos...@seebs.net http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated! I am not speaking for my employer, although they do rent some of my opinions. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list