On Dec 28, 11:10 pm, flebber <flebber.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 28, 10:37 pm, Adam Tauno Williams <awill...@whitemice.org> > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 03:24 -0800, flebber wrote: > > > On Dec 28, 10:16 pm, Adam Tauno Williams <awill...@whitemice.org> > > > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 02:26 -0800, flebber wrote: > > > > > Is pydev actively being developed and for who? SPE is a great idea but > > > > > is Stan still developing? Pyscripter is good but not 64 capable. Plus > > > > > none of these projects seem community centric. > > > > Why not just check the repo and see the real answer for yourself? It is > > > > Open Source after all. > > > > <https://github.com/aptana/Pydev/commits/master> > > > Yes you can answer questions, but have you really? Your answer seems > > > to be things are open source so who cares about community. > > > > Many projects accept donations via PayPal. Sourceforge supports this. > > > Of course any fool can throw his/her money away thats no challenge why > > > even use Paypal, I could have fun and by 10 bottles of vino and hand > > > them out to recovering alcoholics. > > > Don't answer things just for the sake of it, if you have nothing > > > producive to say about furthering python and its community then say > > > that. > > > I provided two concrete points, thank you: > > > (1) Is a project actively developed? Look at the repo. That is the > > answer to the question [this isn't necessarily obvious to those new to > > Open Source]. > > (1.1.) "Is PyDev a potential unifying force amoung IDEs?" Which is the > > implied question - that is up to the OP and others who do/do-not > > contribute to it. > > (2) How can I donate cash? There is a fairly standard mechanism for > > that. > > > Otherwise I think the OP's thoughts on "community" and how Open Source > > works are somewhat flawed. "Community" is a manifestation of people > > *doing* things; it does *not* arise out of people being concerned about > > things [since "doing" is quite apparently not a natural result of > > "concern". Concern is like watching TV. Doing is getting out of the > > chair.] > > Fair point. > > You have mistaken somewhat what I intended, partly my fault due to the > verbosity. I wanted gaugue feedback on others perception of the > current status quo. I am happy personally currently, currently being > the main word. > > "Community" is a manifestation of people > > > *doing* things; it does *not* arise out of people being concerned about > > things > > But concern is derived from interaction and observation and like fear > and joy tells us we need to take an action. If someone chooses to sir > idly by good for them I haven't the time or inclination personally. > > Tony Robbins "Acheiving a goal is simple, decide what your goal is, > set out towards it and consistently review whether you are getting > closer or further from your goal and take action immediately." > > From a language perspective going to python 3 this definitely seems to > be occurring well and strongly lead. > > Sometimes the fault in open source is the lack of a crystalized and > shared goal and proper infrastructure.....Gentoo as an example. Could > get to they were going because they didn't share the same vision of > what it was. > > I meant no attack by reviewing, just a somewhat newbies observations > of python.
Edit Gentoo couldn't get to where they were going because of lack of vision and a shared goal. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list