Alec Taylor <alec.tayl...@gmail.com> writes: > I've tried all the IDEs/text-editors mentioned.
Great! Experimenting with them is valuable if you have the time. > Emacs and vim are good, however I often find myself on a workstation > without direct console access. I don't understand this; both of those (unlike most of the less powerful alternatives mentioned in this thread) allow operation via direct windowed application, by remote windowed application, or by remote text-mode application. What is is you think Emacs or Vim are lacking in this regard, and what makes you expect it? > GVim leaves a lot aesthetically desired. Also there's a learning-curve > to both of them They carry a lot of baggage from being decades old. But that speaks more about the mercurial changes in user interfaces of other programs, and the high value programmers who've already mastered a flexible tool place on applying what they've already learned in as many future situations as can be feasible. Both Vim and Emacs are actively and passionately developed, their interfaces are being refined all the time without dramatic overhauls every few years, and that's a huge advantage of these two and is part of what makes them the default choice of so many programmers. > whereas nano, and all the text-editors/IDEs above are user-friendly. As many others in this thread have said, the learning curve pays off in access to a powerful general-purpose tool that you can apply to an enormous range of programming tasks. A reason Vim and Emacs survive while so many thousands of other options rise and fall and are forgotten is in part because Vim and Emacs have gained the maturity and critical mass of community support that ensures you can do just about anything in them. Even if you don't end up liking either of them, you should gain working familiarity with at least one of Vim or Emacs. They are the closest things the programming world has to a standard coding environment and are the most likely to be available and acceptable to your peers where no other familiar option exists. -- \ “I got fired from my job the other day. They said my | `\ personality was weird. … That's okay, I have four more.” | _o__) —Bug-Eyed Earl, _Red Meat_ | Ben Finney -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
