Thomas> My reference to Visual Basic was meant to be a poke in the eye. Thomas> The language itself stinks. BUT - having a robust IDE with Thomas> keyword tooltip prompts, built in language documentation, robust Thomas> built in debugging, and most of all - a stable GUI , a standard Thomas> suite of widgets for interacting with those pesky, error prone Thomas> humans, the ability to draw these on a form with a mouse and Thomas> have all that running in minutes! It no longer matters that the Thomas> language itself smells like 4 day old fish! No amount of Thomas> linguistic or structural elegance can have as much impact on Thomas> productivity as the IDE/GUI.
Thomas> It drives me crazy when someone suggests that it might amount to Thomas> no more than a bit of fluff hardly worth bothering with because Thomas> when it comes to programming - Thomas> An excellent IDE/GUI just trumps everything. Glade is fine for building Gtk user interfaces. I have no idea if there are similar tools for other widget sets, though I wouldn't be surprised if such tools existed. Once the GUI is fairly stable, most of the development after that occurs in the underlying functional part of the code (at least in my recent experience). For that, no amount of Glade slinging will help. Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list