Ok, after reading eveything I could find on Idle not starting, nothing worked. I was left on my own. So, I went into C:\Python32\Lib\idlelib through a dos command prompt. I then executed the "idle.py" program. The message's that I recieved in the dos window was referring gnuplot.ini. It complained a few times with different messages and finally idle 3.2 started up and now works from the start programs menu. Anyway, just incase, I deleted gnuplot from my path. I guess I will have to try and install gnuplot again. At least if it breaks my python, I now know how to fix it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list