On 4/23/2012 1:55 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Benjamin Kaplan
<benjamin.kap...@case.edu>  wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Paul Rubin<no.email@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
The "is" operator is perfectly defined. But it doesn't check to see
whether two objects hold equivalent values, it checks whether they are
the same thing. You're not interested in whether 20+30 and 30+20 are
the same object, you're interested in whether they return equivalent
values which should be checked with ==.

The only way to check if two values are the same or not is to compare
via is or compare the return values of id().

To quote you, 'bollocks'. The right way to compare values is with value comparison operators.

> So you can say that is or
id() are ill-defined, or you can say that the identity of new numbers
is ill-defined,

'numbers' do not have identity, at least not separate from value.
Concrete computational process objects do.

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