On 8 November 2012 00:00, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > Andrew, it appears that your posts are being eaten or rejected by my > ISP's news server, because they aren't showing up for me. Possibly a side- > effect of your dates being in the distant past? So if you have replied to > any of my posts, I haven't seen them. > > In any case, I wanted to ask a question: > > > On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 14:01:19 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Andrew Robinson >> <andr...@r3dsolutions.com> wrote: > > [...] > >>> But, in any event: >>> Pass by value (not call by value) is a term stretching back 30 years; >>> eg: when I learned the meaning of the words. Rewording it as "Call by >>> value" is something that happened later, and the nuance is lost on >>> those without a very wide programming knowledge *and* age. > > Every now and again I come across somebody who tries to distinguish > between "call by foo" and "pass by foo", but nobody has been able to > explain the difference (if any) to me. When you CALL a function, you PASS > values to it. Hence the two terms are effectively synonyms, and both > refer to the evaluation strategy when binding arguments to parameters. > > If you believe that is incorrect, can you point me to something > explaining the difference?
Did you also miss MRAB's post above? It made sense to me. MRAB wrote: > The disadvantage of calling it "call by ..." is that it suggests that > you're just talking about calling functions. > > What about binding in general, eg "x = y"? Does it make sense to still > call it "call by ..."? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list