On 04/02/2013 07:39 AM, Steve Simmons wrote:

On 02/04/2013 15:03, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:58:11 +0100, Steve Simmons wrote:

It seems to me that jmf *might* be moving towards a vindicated position.
  There is some interest now in duplicating, understanding and
(hopefully!) extending his test results, which can only be a Good Thing
- whatever the outcome and wherever the facepalm might land.
Some interest "now"? Oh please.

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2012-September/629810.html

Mark Lawrence even created a bug report to track this, also back in
September.

http://bugs.python.org/issue16061

I'm sure you didn't intend to be insulting, but some of us *have* taken
JMF seriously, at least at first. His repeated overblown claims of how
Python is destroying Unicode, his lack of acknowledgement that other
people have seen string handling *speed up* not slow down, and his
refusal to assist in diagnosing this performance regression except to
repeatedly quote the same artificial micro-benchmarks over and over again
have lost him whatever credibility he started with.

This feature is a *memory optimization*, not a speed optimization, and
yet as a side-effect of saving memory, it also saves time. Real-world
benchmarks of actual applications demonstrate this. One or two trivial
slowdowns of artificial micro-benchmarks simply are not important, even
if they are genuine. I believe they are genuine, but likely operating
system and hardware dependent.


First off, no insult intended and I haven't been part of this list long enough 
to be fully immersed in the history of
this so I'm sure there are events of which I am unaware.

Yes, that would be his months of trollish behavior on this subject.


However, it seems to me that, for whatever reason, JMF has reached the end of 
his capacity

His capacity, maybe; his time? Not by a long shot. I am positive we will continue to see his uncooperative, bratty* behavior continue ad nauseum.

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*I was going to say childish, but I know plenty of better behaved children.
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