yeah i found out why it wasn't defined before because i tried to put it into a function.
this is my drawBoard function: import turtle as Turtle Turtle.title("Checkers") b = 75 def drawBoard(b): Turtle.speed(0) Turtle.up() Turtle.goto(-4 * b, 4 * b) Turtle.down() for i in range (8): Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) for i in range (1): Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b*2) Turtle.right(90) for i in range(8): Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) for i in range(1): Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) for i in range (8): Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) for i in range (1): Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) for i in range(8): Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) for i in range(1): Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) for i in range (8): Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) for i in range (1): Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) for i in range(8): Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) for i in range(1): Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) for i in range (8): Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.left(90) Turtle.forward(b) for i in range (1): Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) for i in range(8): Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) Turtle.right(90) Turtle.forward(b) drawBoard(b) Turtle.done() it draws an 8x8 board table. what i initially wanted to do was to return this function if nothing was inputted from the user. i hope that makes more sense :S -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list