On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Antoon Pardon <antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be> wrote: > There are two problems with your reasoning. The first is that you > are equivocating on "expect". "Expect" can mean you will be surprised > if it doesn't happen but it can also mean you will feel indignant or > disappointed or something similar when it doesn't happen.
Perhaps I am, but it doesn't change my argument in any way. When a troll shows up I am not happy about it, but I am not disappointed either, because Trolls Happen. I am disappointed when members of the community act in ways that are detrimental to the community. Better? > The second problem is that I find it a one sided view. If you want > a courteous, respectful, welcoming and enjoyable to participate in > list, shouldn't you also be careful in not encouraging trollish > behaviour? Being courteous to or cooperating with someone behaving > trollishly, is IMO enabling that kind of behaviour and so those > doing so, seem to already throw those priciples out the window because > they are cooperating with the troll who is making this list less > courteous, respectful, welcoming and enjoyable to participate in > for a significant number of people. You'll note that I haven't engaged Nikos at all in some time. That's because I think he's a troll. I think though that those who are continuing to help him do so because they do not think that he is a troll. I am not going to try to thrust my own opinion of who is or is not a troll and who can or cannot be given help upon the list -- that is their opinion, they are entitled to it, and maybe they see something in the exchange that I don't. That is different in my eyes from somebody who does identify Nikos as a troll and then goes on to egg him on anyway, whether it be courteous or belligerent. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list