On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Gregory Ewing <greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote: > As far as observable effects are concerned, it's > quite clear: mutable objects can *always* be updated > in-place, and immutable objects can *never* be.
Hm. Consider the circle-ellipse problem. Briefly, a circle is-an ellipse, so in an inheritance hierarchy it is natural to make Circle a subclass of Ellipse. Now suppose the Ellipse has a stretch method that mutates the ellipse by changing the length of one of its axes while preserving the other. To avoid violating LSP, the Circle class must support all the methods of its ancestor. However it cannot, because the stretch method would invalidate the invariant of the Circle class that both of its axes must always be equal. There are a number of possible solutions. One possibility would be to copy the Circle as an Ellipse and return the new object instead of mutating it. Then you have the situation where, given a mutable object x that satisfies isinstance(x, Ellipse), the stretch method *may* be able to update the object in-place, or it *may* not. I can't think of a reasonable example that would replace the stretch method here with an augmented assignment, but then it is rather late. > It might be the obvious way for that particular operation on > that particular type. But what about all the others? > What's the obvious way to spell in-place set intersection, > for example? (Quickly -- no peeking at the docs!) You mean set.intersection_update? The in-place set methods are not hard to remember, because they all end in _update. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list