On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:35:18 -0700 (PDT), sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:06:35 PM UTC-7, Seymore4Head wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:57:00 -0400, Joel Goldstick
>> <joel.goldst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Seymore4Head
>> ><Seymore4Head@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
>> >> def nametonumber(name):
>> >>     lst=[""]
>> >>     for x,y in enumerate (name):
>> >>         lst=lst.append(y)
>> >>     print (lst)
>> >>     return (lst)
>> >> a=["1-800-getcharter"]
>> >> print (nametonumber(a))#18004382427837
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The syntax for when to use a () and when to use [] still throws me a
>> >> curve.
>> >() is tuples which are immutable which means that the items can't be
>> >changed.  [] is list which means that each item can be changed.
>> >Tuples are useful because they can be used as keys in dictionaries and
>> >are guarantied not to change.  Lists are useful because they can be
>> >updated.
>> >
>> >What you are doing confuses me.  You don't use x, which is the enumerated 
>> >value.
>> >
>> >FIrst lst should be lst = [] .  You don't need to set the first
>> >element in the list to an empty string.  You just want to establish
>> >that you have an empty list called lst
>> >Second, you don't need lst = lst.append(y) because you can just say
>> >lst.append(y).  This will append the y value to the end of the list.
>> >As to converting letters to the corresponding numbers on a phone
>> >keypad, you don't show you code here for that
>> >>
>> >> For now, I am trying to end up with a list that has each character in
>> >> "a" as a single item.
>> >>
>> >> I get:
>> >> None
>> >> None
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>> 
>> The lst=lst.append(y)
>> Was the mistake I never could see.
>> 
>> I am using enumerate just for practice.  To me that is just as easy as
>> typing len(something) and it seems more flexible.
>> 
>> and.......the reason I don't show the code for the conversions is that
>> I haven't got that far yet.  :)
>> 
>> Thank you
>
>I'm still confused as to why you're using enumerate.  Using it when you don't 
>need to for "practice" just seems strange.  You don't even need to use 
>len(something) in your case.  You should just be using 'for y in name:' if you 
>don't need that x.  Enumerate is essentially just a shortcut to zipping a 
>range based on the length.  For example...
>
>for x, y in enumerate(name):
>
>is equivalent to:
>
>for x, y in zip(range(len(name)), name):
>
>And both are pointless if you're not using the x.
>
>Also, is there a reason why you're defining 'a' to be a list with a single 
>string value, rather than just defining it as a string?  It seems like you 
>should probably just have:
>
>a = "1-800-getcharter"


The lst=lst part was throwing an error I didn't understand.  That was
the only reason I added brackets around the 'a'.  I was getting in to
trial and error stuff.   Mostly error.

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