On 23/08/2015 00:44, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamore...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I was always led to believe that the subject was a difficult thing to do,
but here
https://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/comments/3huz4x/how_to_do_math_inside_raw_input/
is a safe solution in only 23 characters, or are there any discernable flaws
in it?


I'm sorry, I can't see which solution you're talking about there -
maybe I just don't know how to read reddit properly. Can you paste the
proposed code please?

The best I can see there is "use eval but with no builtins". That's
fundamentally flawed because you don't need builtins to break stuff.
All you need is a literal, from which you can snag everything else via
its attributes.

However, for this situation, I would be recommending ast.literal_eval,
which *is* safe. It's a lot more powerful than "split it into number,
operator, number" as mentioned at the end, but still can't majorly
break anything.

ChrisA


<code>
>>> import os
>>> eval("os.system('rm -rf /')", {"__builtins__":None})
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<pyshell#8>", line 1, in <module>
    eval("os.system('rm -rf /')", {"__builtins__":None})
  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable
</code>

<comment>
Surely I must I have missed your meaning because I needed just 23 characters and zero extra lines to create a safe sandbox for this, but you've said that the core developers have tried and failed to do this. It appears that I didn't just wipe out my entire filesystem and you've stated quite matter-of-factly that there is no safe solution... so what happened here? Why didn't my filesystem just get wiped out?
</comment>

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