On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Antoon Pardon <antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be> wrote: > I don't know what you are talking about. The first thing I have argued > is that () is a literal. Then I have expaned that to that something > like (3, 5, 8) is a literal. I never argued that tuple expressions > in general are literals. And one way I supported my point was with the > following quote from the python language reference. > > Literals are notations for constant values of some built-in types. > > And I think that the things I argued were literals, were in fact > constant values of some built-in type.
I believe that sentence from the docs is using "some" to mean "not all", whereas you are apparently using it to mean "any". frozenset([1,2,3]) constructs a constant value of a built-in type. Would you consider that a literal? How about tuple(1, 2+3, abs(-19))? Still a constant value of a built-in type. I think the most important word in the definition you quoted is actually "notation". It says it right there: literals are not "constant values", but notations for *expressing* constant values. The tuple display notation expresses values that may be constant but need not be. Therefore it's not a literal notation. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list