Hi Adam, from my mail client sent to python-list directly -- actually attempting to reply to the OP in the past has generated some weirdness and bounced messages (probably Gmail attempting to stop me from replying-all with the OP in the TO line rather than the list. But the behavior you mentioned is quite odd.
Here are some message headers I was just looking at, and pasting here to debug. 1 - Adam (OP) Message-ID: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> no references list vars included 2 - from me Message-ID: <CAGq7KhppQtrEe4dvj0SerYZf=_hgo7aith-ttuhtix81q+v...@mail.gmail.com> no references no list vars included 3 - OP Message-ID: <ncp8r1$ofd$1...@news.albasani.net> References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> list vars included 4 - Dirk Message-ID: <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl> no references list vars included 5 - OP Message-ID: <ncpccs$vf1$1...@news.albasani.net> References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1...@news.albasani.net> list vars included 6 - OP Message-ID: <ncpdt2$2t3$1...@news.albasani.net> References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1...@news.albasani.net> <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl> 7 - OP Message-ID: <ncpev8$51d$1...@news.albasani.net> References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1...@news.albasani.net> <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl> 8 - Jonathan Message-ID: <ncpjj0$7ug$1...@dont-email.me> References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1...@news.albasani.net> <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl> <ncpev8$51d$1...@news.albasani.net> 9 - OP Message-ID: <ncprqb$tl9$1...@news.albasani.net> References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1...@news.albasani.net> <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl> <ncpev8$51d$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncpjj0$7ug$1...@dont-email.me> 10 - OP Message-ID: <ncq42h$b8v$1...@news.albasani.net> References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1...@news.albasani.net> <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl> <ncpev8$51d$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncpjj0$7ug$1...@dont-email.me> <ncprqb$tl9$1...@news.albasani.net> ... my next reply In-Reply-To: <ncrg2v$jo$2...@dont-email.me> References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1...@news.albasani.net> <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl> <ncpev8$51d$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncpjj0$7ug$1...@dont-email.me> <ncprqb$tl9$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncq42h$b8v$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncqc7j$na1$1...@dont-email.me> <ncqsui$r9q$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncrg2v$jo$2...@dont-email.me> and Big Bad Bob by far had the funniest headers (right after my last msg) References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1...@news.albasani.net> <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl> <ncpev8$51d$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncpjj0$7ug$1...@dont-email.me> <ncprqb$tl9$1...@news.albasani.net> <ncq42h$b8v$1...@news.albasani.net> In-Reply-To: <ncq42h$b8v$1...@news.albasani.net> X-Why-Are-You-Looking-Here: Jedi Business, move along X-Testing: of course! Message-ID: <mp6dnavahbnh6gzlnz2dnuu7-y_nn...@earthlink.com> and the message I'm currently replying to ... Message-ID: <ncvpqo$jul$1...@news.albasani.net> References: <ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net> So I see a few patterns here -- mostly my Message-IDs never appear in any References so I'd imagine something building a thread of the messages wouldn't include mine. But that makes me worry about delivery or at least properly threading in other clients as well. I'm not sure why that is it could be using Gmail for my domain or the Gmail client itself leaving off the List headers that all the other messages appear to have. I might need to try my Mutt config on this account to see if I get different behavior. Of course it could be that I'm not seeing all the headers I should on my own messages, or referring to my messages, because in that case perhaps Gmail is joining messages in my Sent folder with the thread in another manner. I should really get this fixed, it's probably not a good thing to have the messages vanishing from archives and the like. If you have a few minutes and can check Message-IDs and references and other headers from my emails that'd be awesome and might help me track down what is going on. Thanks for mentioning this! Cheers, =D On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message > news:ncikss$tks$1...@news.albasani.net... > > > > Host OS: Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 LTS / Unity > > > > System crashed while using PyCharm / Python3. > > Booting takes forever and stuck at the purple screen with > > the Ubuntu logo and the five dots cycling. > > How to fix? > > > > Searching for this thread in a browser lead to > the code.activestate.com website where > I see posts from Daniel Wilcox. > But, in my newsreader, I do not see his posts, > which is why his posts are not getting any response. > Daniel, how/where are you responding to this thread? > > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list