On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:42:01 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > > Chris Angelico writes: > > > >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > >> > Pull requests. Code review. Issues. Integration with other services. > >> > All the social information around all of those interactions, and > >> > more. > >> > > >> > If *any* of that is valuable, then yes it's important that it not be > >> > locked to any one vendor. > >> > >> Exactly how important? Not so important as to stop slabs of Python > >> from migrating to GitHub, including its pull request system. > > > > I maintain that it is important enough to stop that. > > > > The migration happened anyway, because not everyone is convinced of the > > importance of avoiding vendor lock-in of valuable data, over criteria > > such as “this person happens to like Vendor-locked Solution Foo”. > > > > Fine. You're welcome to take a 100% philosophical stance; I applaud > you for it. (I understand Richard Stallman is so adamant about not > using *any* non-free code - software or firmware - that he restricts > himself to a tiny selection of laptops that have free BIOSes.) > Personally, I believe practicality beats purity in computing > philosophy as well as API design, and I'll happily let GitHub carry my > software. What's the worst that can happen? I have to switch to > somewhere else, and I lose the issue tracker and pull requests. In the > case of CPython, they wouldn't even be lost - they're (to be) backed > up. In the meantime, I'm on a well-polished platform with a large > number of users. The same cannot be said for *many* other hosts, even > if they do use exclusively free software. > > ChrisA
Speaking of notable figure(heads) its good to compare Stallman (rms) and Torvalds. rms started working on the gnu-system before Torvalds He did more work on that He was (and likely is) a more capable programmer Note further that Torvalds was told off by prof. Tanenbaum for his poor quality unimaginative approach to Linux Torvalds still gets the Lion's share of the credit – how many people say “GNU-Linux distros” rather than just plain “Linux”? I’d say this is directly related to his choosing practicality over purity He didn’t change the obsolete (so-called) Unix API He didn’t redesign the OS along the lines fashionable to guys like Tanenbaum He just found himself at the right place at the right time — holding a protection capable home PC. And beat IBM and Microsoft at producing a kernel for that. No I am not saying that the fears of Ben and Steven are unfounded Just that we may have other battles to fight And other heroes to cheer, eg http://www.trueactivist.com/muslim-man-hugs-isis-suicide-bomber-saves-hundreds-of-lives-in-iraq/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
