On 09/12/2017 08:28 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:20 pm, Leam Hall wrote:
But if someone comes onto the list, or IRC, and says they need to stay
on Python 2 then please drop the dozens of e-mails and comments about
upgrading.
[...]
My recent experience with some people's inability to take "Sorry, I
can't" for an answer has been a real turn-off. I have requirements that
dictate Python. If this was a personal venture I'd already be elsewhere
purely because the Python community on the list and IRC is so unwelcoming.
Leam, I've defended people choosing to remain on older versions of Python, even
as old as 1.5. The most recent was just a couple of minutes ago, in my response
to Chris. It's not nice or friendly of you to tar the entire community with a
reputation because of one or two people saying something you don't want to
debate.
But it isn't all about you. Just because you started this thread -- oh wait, you
didn't *wink* -- doesn't mean you control its direction. If people want to
discuss the pros and cons of upgrading, without specifically badgering you, you
should remember that *it isn't about you* and don't take it personally.
WHAT?!?!?! It isn't all about me? Dang...
Steve, you're right; sorry for painting with such a broad brush. Even
the people who occasionally post something that seems problematic (to
me) are usually helpful.
A few months ago my manager asked about what direction I recommended for
the team. I'm the opinionated old guy who is new to this team. At the
time I was really enjoying Ruby; just so dang fun!
I told my manager that we should use python. It is the best choice for
the team since we're on RHEL 6. Ruby wasn't on the machines but Python
2.6.6 is. Any code I write that is python 2.6.6 compatible should run on
every machine.
My answer meant I had to re-direct personal time and attention so I
could help the team move forward. There are certain things I can do;
learn to code better, write more tests, and figure out OOP. Some things
I can't do; changing the supported python version is on that list.
Python is the right choice for a lot of use cases. Python 3 is the right
choice for a large sub-set of those use cases. Python 2 is the best
choice for a much smaller subset.
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