On 3/08/19 11:50 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
appear.in can also screen share along with its video conferencing, and I
imagine Zoom might do so also. But a screen share is "read only" for the
other party. You could both screen share of course, but it doesn't solve
the keep-the-code-in-sync issue.
Thanks Cameron.
TBH I fear that the keep-the-code-in-sync issue is a bit of a 'red
herring'. Do your pair-programming exercises ever involve both
developing the same code-file at the same time?
A simple screen-share solution has to be the MVP:
- I can see the code someone wants to show/is requesting help for
- we can talk through the question
- but I can't 'take control', eg would have to ask the other person to
scroll in order to show a piece of code 'somewhere else'.
Perhaps this is good discipline?
I am hoping we can 'do better'.
One of the PythonAnywhere principals has come back to me (I first used
this service at least a decade ago, starting when I met Harry (the
testing goat) Roberts at a London PUG meeting - although I'm not sure
whether the evening's topic was PA and 'testing' was mentioned, or
perhaps the other way around! You know how these meetings go - and the
serendipitous benefits that can be realised, although not
designed/deliberate).
PA's "education" services do not appear to have progressed very far
(since), but at least they are happy for me to use the scheme. Yay!
The other observation is that Py3.7 *IS* now available (contrary to
previous msg).
In PA, if I open a "console", it can be shared with all my (PA-defined)
"students" as r/o. Better, is that anyone who cares to ask for help
(registered as one of my students) can ask me to 'look over their
shoulder'. As well as navigating the other person's source-files, I
think I could initiate a test, or quick edit, in that mode.
(if you'd like to give-it-a-whirl/have-a-go, they offer free accounts
(with modest but quite functional facilities) and the registration
process is not onerous - if we* can arrange an RDV, I'll be happy to try
working as a pair...)
* by "we" I mean any list-member, not just Cameron (whose suggestion
heads this post)
- I haven't had a chance to start evaluating the two apparently 'larger'
systems, mentioned yesterday...
So, the ambition for this next PUG coding-night, is to find something
that offers more than the screen-share 'MVP', is well-rounded, and easy
to learn/install/use on a casual basis. My hope, is that 'something'
will offer services we might not have thought relevant/possible/useful,
at first...
(we can but dream)
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