On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 5:48:50 AM UTC-4, dcwh...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:21 AM <dc> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:49:55 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:46 AM dc wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > These are some of the command lines I've typed, and the results.  It 
> > > > > looks like it's going to https://pypi.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea whether that's correct, or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm able to get past the Certificate error with other packages like 
> > > > > requests.  But I just can't update pip.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is the correct domain name. The question is, does it translate to
> > > > the correct IP address? Try doing a DNS lookup and compare it to the
> > > > results I got.
> > > >
> > > > And, don't think in terms of *getting past the error*. Try to solve
> > > > the actual problem. The certificate error is protecting you against
> > > > installing a forged version of PIP.
> > > >
> > > > ChrisA
> > >
> > > For pypi.org alone, my dns lookup differs from yours:  151.101.128.223.
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > Is there a way to just install pip manually, and bypass all this?  I 
> > > mean, if we know we're downloading it from the appropriate ftp or git 
> > > site, then doesn't that in itself avoid a faulty PIP version?
> > >
> > 
> > Ahh, I think I see what's happening. Something's interfering with your
> > DNS - that's a Fastly IP address. I think the best solution would be
> > to undo or bypass whatever's messing with your network, and then
> > you'll be able to use pip normally without any sort of issues.
> > 
> > ChrisA
> 
> Which is what I thought I was trying to do.
> 
> Why does the latest Python come with an earlier version of pip, to begin with?
> 
> Maybe I can update pip on another Win10 PC, identify the changed folders, and 
> copy them over.

Finally got it.  Damn, this was a nightmare:


python get-pip.py --trusted-host pypi.org --trusted-host files.pythonhosted.org

Collecting pip
  Downloading pip-20.0.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl (1.4 MB)
     |████████████████████████████████| 1.4 MB 64 kB/s
Collecting wheel
  Downloading wheel-0.34.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl (26 kB)
Installing collected packages: pip, wheel
  Attempting uninstall: pip
    Found existing installation: pip 19.2.3
    Uninstalling pip-19.2.3:
      Successfully uninstalled pip-19.2.3
Successfully installed pip-20.0.2 wheel-0.34.2

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