On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:32 AM Marco Sulla
<marco.sulla.pyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 at 08:07, Inada Naoki <songofaca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't think so.  The view objects are useful when we need a set-like
> > operation. (e.g. `assert d.keys() == {"spam", "egg"}`)
>
> Yes, but, instead of creating a view, you can create and cache the
> pointer of a "real" object, that implements the dict view API.
> For example, keys for a frozendict could be an "ordered" frozenset.
> This "oset" could be a frozendict, which values are the keys and the
> keys are the key hashes (as set).
>

I am not sure about what are you saying.
Does it really solve the usage of dict views?
How about my example? (`assert d.keys() == {"spam", "egg"}`)


> On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 at 08:07, Inada Naoki <songofaca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There is no difference between mutable and immutable dicts.
>
> There's a huge difference, and it's in the contract. As I said, if we
> assume that a frozendict is immutable, we can optimize its speed.
> Furthermore, currently no real functional programming can be done in
> Python with dicts.

Oh, ! am talking about dict views.  I meant there is no difference
between "how dict view is useful for dict" and "how dict view is
useful for frozendict".

But I am still not sure about the optimizations and functional
programming you are talking about.
Please elaborate more, please?

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