On 23/07/2020 02.12, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 22Jul2020 15:00, Christian Heimes <christ...@python.org> wrote: >> Hi MAL, >> >> would it be possible to reduce the amount of EuroPython spam on >> @python.org mailing lists to a sensible level? This mailing list is a >> general discussion list for the Python programming language. It's not a >> conference advertisement list. >> >> Something between 1 to 3 mails per conference and year (!) sounds >> sensible to me. [...] > > I, OTOH, am unperturbed. > > Things have been much in flux this year, and a last minute short notice > thing like this post needs wide dissemination. Normally a conference > needs few posts, but this year everything is different and plans have > changed a lot, on the fly. > > I have never attended EuroPython and probably never will (I'm on the > other side of the planet) but I'm still interested. Rather than > subscribe to every conference thing, getting them here is very > convenient.
I have been to a lot of EuroPython conferences. EP 2003 in Charleroi/Belgium was my first Python conference. I have given several talks at EP in recent years and have participated in one panel discussion / AMA about Python core development. I'm not disputing the fact that a conference can use the generic Python users list for announcements. It's the fact that EP is literally spamming the list with threads like "Opening our merchandise shop", "Find a new job", "Introducing our diamond sponsor", and "Presenting our conference booklet". That's just spam to advertise for the conference or a company. Some EP announcements were cross-posted to multiple mailing lists like psf-commun...@python.org, too. python.org has a dedicated conference mailing list for conference related announcements. Additional to general conferen...@python.org EuroPython has 2 (in words *TWO*) additional mailing lists for announcements and discussions (europyt...@python.org, europython-annou...@python.org). > As with all posters and topics, a truly annoying one can always be > blocked at your personal discretion with a filter rule, eg to discard > "europython". I know that advice verges on the spammers' claim that "you > can always opt out" but for me this stuff isn't spam. See https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Missing_stair Some people have replied to me in private because they did not dare to speak out against a prominent member of the Python community in public. At least one person has followed up with Code Of Conduct working group because they are annoyed by the spam. Christian -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
