On 8/18/20 1:22 AM, justin walters wrote: > I for one don't want to see politics involved in PL development. However, > inclusivity isn't a political issue, it's a human rights issue. > > Do I agree with the PR, not exactly. However, I do think we as a community > should be accommodating to people > Whose use of the English language differs from the standard as long as the > meaning is clear. > > This thread reads like a bunch of old fuddy duddies complaining about > immigrants not speaking perfect English at a fast food restaurant. > > Feel free to ban me from the list if this doesn't meet your standards. > One comment on this. I think the focus on the words that have been used is very much a '1st world problem'. Most of the people actually suffering from the problems being discusses would very much LOVE to be in a position where the discussion of what words are the right way to say something was their biggest issue. The forces behind these issues very much love to see our focus go to debating our speech, as opposed to actually DOING something about the issue. This isn't an accusation that those bringing up the speech issues are part of the dark forces behind the problems, but maybe a call to them to think about what really is the important issue.
This also doesn't mean that language doesn't matter. If our language makes a Human Rights issue seem to be 'normal', that is bad, and weakens our resolve against it. Sometimes though, the right use of a word can be powerful, and analogies are great teachers. For example, talking (to a techie) how in a master-slave network, the master node has very strong control over what the slave node does, and then comparing that to a person, asking how would it feel to be that 'slave node', maybe even needing to wait for your 'master' to ask before you went to the bathroom, or be considered to be 'malfunctioning'. -- Richard Damon -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
