Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Chris Green <c...@isbd.net> wrote: > > Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2021-05-06, Chris Green <c...@isbd.net> wrote: > >> > Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Pointing a newsreader at news.gmane.io allows one to participate in > >> >> the mailing list just fine without using Usenet. > >> >> > >> > ??? Surely that *is* using Usenet, at least you're using NNTP which > >> > is the Usenet protocol. What's "not Usenet" about it? > >> > >> Usenet was a distributed network of computers that transferred > >> articles amongst themselves using various protocols, and provided > >> access to readers in various ways (NNTP being one of them). > >> > > Usenet *is* still this > > Good point. > > >> Gmane was not and is not part of that network. It is a single, > >> stand-alone machine operating as an email list archiver/gateway that > >> provides access to read/post via NTTP. > > > > It is effectively part of Usenet because the mailing lists it hosts > > and gateways to its newserver are peered with Usenet. > > I don't consider that as "being part of Usenet". Being part of Usenet > means that you peer with other the news hosts within Usenet, provide > the same group hiearchary (or some defined subset) and obey the normal > newsgroup control messages. > > > I read several gmane 'lists' via usenet, I most certainly don't get > > them directly from gmane, I get them from other usenet servers. > > Are you saying that the gmane news server is peered with other news > servers? And that you can read gmane.comp.python.general on other news > servers? That didn't used to be the case... > Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
... ah, but, you're probably right! Sorry. I've just looked at my leafnode configuration and I *have* got news.gmane.io in there. I must have done it so long ago that I'd forgotten all about it. -- Chris Green ยท -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list